The scientists, headed by Doctor Julius Sanreso, welcomed the research findings and said that it would be in the interests of those who believe in such nonsense as organised religion or creationism to accept the fact that religious books were written by men as a control system.
“Just think for one second, if ‘God’ or a ‘messenger of God’ had written that particular religious book/bible, how come the writings only occur within a very limited period in human history? Also, consider the fact, that a human writing on a piece of paper, or a few pieces of paper, is not the word of ‘God’. If they were really written by a universal God or entity, the books would not be limited to some pre-medievel costume drama but would encompass all universality, history, the future and science. Language is something created by man, not an all-seeing, all encompassing entity. God would presumably be universal and timeless as well as all-knowing, as is the universe, therefore these man-written books and scriptures, are just that, man-written linguistically created nonsense used to control men and women thousands of years ago. Why would ‘God’ write anything anyway? One must consider the fact that, even now, there are religious zealots and ordinary people still entrenched in a control belief system that is so far removed from reality that it borders on madness. There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written. These books should therefore simply be viewed as limited parables and historical fiction, as well as a lesson in how millions of people can be so easily controlled.”
The research paper also came to the conclusion that reward/punishment religions, as control systems, were losing their grip on most of the population of the world and only a few die-hard fanatics and delusional maniacs were carrying on with the flame of idiocy.
“The game is up for all religions, how long can this sham carry on, with their ridiculous outdated ceremonies? The priests are deceivers, and they need to come up with some pretty radical solutions to their thousand year old magic trick. People aren’t as dumb or easily swayed as they used to be thousands of years ago, they actually have reasoning powers and can see through the utter nonsense of organised control systems like religion.”
The problem for the world’s political leaders, is that slowly, humans who were controlled for so many years by fictitious writings through generational brainwashing from infancy, may suddenly lose their controlled ‘faith’. This could be quite dangerous, because it would mean that these people would suddenly wake up and realise that they have been fooled for so long by being communally hypnotised.
“We must ensure that the people who have been fooled for so long by fictitious belief systems utilised to control humans do not get too angry when they realise that what they believe in is nonsense written by humans utilising human created language. This could be dangerous for society, so we must either let them carry on believing their fiction or try to somehow support them when they realise the truth,” Dr Sanreso said.
If a supposedly loving God exists…..
Why did he confuse languages which only divided the people
Why is he letting trillions of people in the world get killed by war, by disease, by starvation,
Murdered from knives, guns, strangulations,.
Why does he let women and girls be raped, mutilated, die in child birth, give birth to dead babies, or babies with disease, illness, defirmaties….
Why does some of his so called book the bible…have to be interpreted….why does God talk in riddles…
Why does God allow paedofila, abortion, people been jailed innocent,
God does not exist, get over it!!!! If however he does exist, he don't give a ****….
Get over that too…
Religion is all about controlling people….in order to bring in tyranny and fascism globally….in the
New World Order…look that up and see fit yourself.
Religion is nothing more than a tool of the devil.
Jehovah's witnesses, the pope, Christianity, do the research…
yes… the first order of business, if MAN is to survive on this planet, is to stop the delusion, and move forward as rational, THINKING human beings. Take note: the most productive and peaceful countries in the world, are those that the majority is non-christian. Just the opposite for highly religious countries…more people have been murdered in the name of religion,than by any other cause…combined! Think about that for a minute…
I don’t think that stat about “more people have been murdered in the name of religion,than by any other cause…combined” is accurate. I suppose one would have to deliminate between actual killing for religion and using religion as an excuse, just nationalism, or even atheism. How many did the Soviets, North Koreans, Chinese, etc. kill in the name of Atheism. But is that really why they were doing it? Or was that a convenient excuse? Is anyone ever really killed for one reason or is always a combination of factors that play into each other?
Do you mean “most productive” and “peaceful” to be linked the way they are or are they independent criteria?
Are people loving?
I grew up in a religious family and a religious country, I am now reaching my 38th, i was always questioning many religious aspect we are follwoing, i find it difficult to admit it's right, many clue was there i can see them, but was not daring denying the existence of God, now i am 100% beleiving myself and my reason, I've always been a more intelligent and different person from most of people around me (family, friends, ….) today i can see clearly the big picture, and to my surprise, i became a better person, more confident than ever, everything has changed in me, it's like i was chained and broke free, i don't feel anymore that burden on my heart, i want to live my life to the fullest, before i was just waiting to die, i only feel sorry for the years of my life i lost living in suppression, guilt, depression, and i feel sorry for my loved ones also, they missed the 1 and only life they've got :(. i hate those people who introduced religions and manupulated us, i hate the stupid poepole who beleived and still beleiving them.
HALELUJIAH!! (kaff-kaff!) Yes! I also broke free of those chains of delusion! This IS your only life…live this life to the fullest!
Question everything. Accept others. Love all anyway.
I hope your comment is satirical because there is no way any intelligent person can be that self-contradictory. You use the phrases "May lighting strike them a thousand times"; "Jesus please forgive these fools"; and "They will… burn in the molten trenches of fire and lava for eternity." All while referring to the same group of people… wtf! Then again you can't seem to spell lightning correctly so you might not be THAT intelligent.
so you saying that god is disperate to introduce himself to us and sending people like us to introduce him from time to time and keeping silent for some period then coming back again to try to introduce himself ??? i dont think a god will do this
To whomever wrote this comment I am replying to….
You are dumb.
"Jesus Christ" was never a real person. Mary's last name was not "Christ" and you are incredibly ignorant if you believe it was.He also did NOT go by the name "Jesus". His name, that everyone at the time he walked the earth called him, was pronounced "Yahushua". which is correctly translated today to "Joshua". The name "Jesus" came later…..much later. made up by man. (source: http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm )
Sincerely,
Your friendly (more educated than you are) neighborhood ATHEIST.
Pick up your bible and read acts 7:44 and then re-read the article you posted. Remember the article you posted is man made. Jesus was not man made.
I am afraid I don’t understand how your statement is a rebuttal to the preceding comment.
Oh my God, I don’t believe in God :O
Religions are behind mankind retardation and failure, while the good and the bad are human characters, religion comes with “instruction” to do the good and abstain from doing the bad, but human nature is that when something is prohibited it is the most wanted, so over thousands of years, human were most probably wanting the bad that their religion prohibited and doing it even in discretion, which means human most likely committed sins while believing in their religion, thousand times more if there were no religion at all that existed and gave them instructions.
When you tell a baby NO don’t eat this piece of paper, it’s not good for you, he will try harder to eat it, that’s the human nature, when religion comes and says do this and don’t do that, it’s confusing for the human being, especially when it starts as early as fetus stat, another example, some people likes to drink alcohol, they feel they need it because they are that kind of person who is always in tension, who needs external help to relax a bit, but when they have the freedom to choose whether to use it or not, they will probably abstain, or use in moderation, taking into consideration the many disadvantage of alcohol, but when their religion and family and community and country and almost everybody, says no don’t do it, it’s a sin, what do you think they will do then? The normal reaction is that they will want it more than anything in the world, and when they get the chance to have it, they will have a lot!!!!!
What I am trying to say here, is that the people who invented religions had good intentions maybe, they wanted to create a better world by classifying the bad and good things and by encouraging people to do the good (you will go to heaven) and terrorizing them to do the bad (you will go to hell) they did not know that human had to go through the experience to know the good and the bad by themselves, which has created through the years a world full of unhappy, confused, chattered, disordered, tiered…human being.
So having laws against rape and murder cause more rape and murder?
Anyone who denies that this mediocre (at best) text was written by man and has absolutely zero divinity to it is just sadly delusional. It is a book which contains countless contradictions, laughable inaccuracies, horrible tales of immorality, disgusting shows of monomaniacal dictatorship, and the occasional spattering of flowery verse. If someone, if anyone reads this book without childhood indoctrination and knowledge of the support of billions (similar to those who thought the Earth rested upon pillars – oh, wait, they're the same group) while displaying the equivalent of a high school education, they would immediately discard it as a writing far inferior to other fictions such as The Odyssey and The Lord Of The Rings.
You have clarified what you think wouldn’t be a divinely inspired text, so what would a divinely inspired text look like?
May God forgive your soul whoever wrote this piece needs to repent for their sin. I bet they've never even rad the Holy Book. We ask that Jesus forgives these warlocks & demons amongst us.
Say what you want, but there is undeniable proof that Jesus existed. Ever hear of the Constitution of the United States? He wrote that. He also invented the .30-06 cartridge to help our founding fathers kill off the dinosaurs to make the world a safer place.
Christians = 1 Science = 0
I am a Christian, and I just want to say, this article was written by man and quite frankly is absolute rubbish! 🙂
Seen my own brain matter? No, but I have sufficient proof it exists via other means. There is no proof for a god.
You write:
“I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.”
Nice idea, kinda like Pascal's Wager. The problem is you assume that the only possible god to believe in is the Christian god. When you add in all the other possible gods people believe in, you have to choose, and since there is only one correct choice, the chances the you have chosen correctly are rather slim.
Personally, I don't care what you believe, no matter what I think of it. I do care about what you choose to try to write into the laws of my country, and if you're choosing to write in things that are religiously biased, I will be angry, and I will fight against those items being made into law. When you support laws that have a religious bias, you're forcing me to adhere to your religion, and I refuse.
I suspect most atheists really don't care what you believe. What they care about is how often Christians want to force their religion on them via laws and publicly funded displays and people putting creationism into the school system and other similar things.
The overwhelming majority of atheists wouldn't feel the slightest need to say a word about religion if evangelical nutbars would stop trying to shove their brand of it down the throats of children, lawmakers, and basically, anyone who doesn't believe their particular fairy tale, especially in America. Oh, and we don't have "beliefs". (At least, not religious ones) We just decline to accept yours without extraordinary proof, which has yet to be provided. And while I agree that scientists (Not sure why you felt the need to put that in quotes. That's really really what they are.) are human, thus error-prone and tending occasionally to let their personal agenda overwhelm their reason, at least science has a built-in error-correction scheme to deal with that. That's largely what the scientific method is for. Has religion got the equivalent? Nope. Science tries to get to the truth by ripping into a new theory and attempting repeatedly to prove it wrong. Religion has apologetics. Pretty much the complete opposite. Take a two thousand-year-old assertion by some guy whose day job was following sheep around and try to massage it until it fits known observations about the world. Good luck with that.
Aww, you're so cute I could just put you in my pocket…. It's the frothing that makes you so adorable.
"May lighting strike them a thousand times "……………yup, you do sound like a wonderful Christian.
I agree with you brother it is articles like this one that seek to undo Jesus's work he who gave his life for us on the cross. I am sickened to read some of the comments from atheists who think that the bible was a work of fiction. May lighting strike them a thousand times as the Lord will come back soon. I know his time is near now as the time of rapture is coming soon. Jesus please forgive these fools who are doing Lucifer's work. They will get what is owed to them and burn in the molten trenches of fire and lava for eternity. tHERE is only one true God and you will either bow to his throne or die an eternal death in hell. May God forgive you for your sins. God is all forgiving you first have to open your hearts to Jesus and the Lord.
… Poetry anyone?
Beware of those who try and discredit the Holy Bible. It is Luciefers work. His domain is the earth but God's is the heavens.
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO BURN IN HELL! WHAT IS THIS DEMONIC ENTITY THE SQUIB THAT PRINTS SUCH BLASPHEMY FROM HERETIC SCIENTIST EVIL SINNERS? YOU ARE SATANIC UNBELIEVERS. ATHEISTS WILL BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR NOT FOLLOWING OUR TRUE SCRIPTURE.
Revelation 20:7-10
And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
SATAN WANTS YOU TO DOUBT HE WANT YOU TO DISMISS THE WRITINGS OF JESUS AND HE WILL DECIEVE YOU ANY WAY HE WANTS. IF WE LET THEM WIN THEN WE ALL DIE.
James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
So you are saying that you were there when he did?
It's tongue in cheek. Get over yourself.
So can you supply the same scrutiny to the bible as you apply to the Dr? Wait for the full paper.
Anyone that actually believes the writings in the bible is crackers. How many animals in the arc? Really? Get real.
Do you think that all Christians are literalists?
If they aren’t, does that disqualify them as Christians?
Wouldn’t that be straw manning?
If you follow the text to your interpretation, what is the point? You are making your own rules. If you don’t have enough sense to behave morally, perhaps you should be eating applesauce, & given a nurse.
So all or nothing?
I find it hard to believe that you insist on such literalness on all documents so why just religious texts?
Wouldn’t the question be what is the point for them ie. the reader? If they find meaning isn’t that enough? Doesn’t that give meaning to the text and a perspective from which to read it?
Despite what some people believe, no one is an island. We are all the product of many dynamic influences. Many people and texts and shows impact us our view of right and wrong throughout our lives. Some of this development is predicated on neurological development but we develop because of those outside influences. I don’t care if it is Harry Potter, the Bible, or Battlestar Galactica the fact of the matter is that our moral outlook, and the behaviors that follow, are built on these insights.
All of this I find separate to the idea of behaving morally though. I don’t care if you are a Christian (Dylann Roof), a Muslim (Yassin Salhi), or an atheist (Craig Hicks), your beliefs do not reflect your actions. If someone holds Randian ethics to be their code or the words of Jesus or the concepts of Nietzsche it doesn’t matter and is separate from their behavior. Much as all the anti-Semites or racists or conservatives don’t follow their beliefs to a logical conclusion and go out eliminating those who are “destroying society” very few people actually follow through to the logical conclusions of their beliefs. And then there are those on the other end who think more should be done about the oppressed or poor but never lift a finger to do so.
Critical thinking is a necessary tool for all of us, but to discard out of hand a tool that someone finds useful is the opposite of that. But perhaps a Kantian such as yourself disagrees? 🙂
I have to sadly agree. Any argument stated as fact needs to be followed with corroborating evidence. Seeing as to how strongly an article like this is likely to be attacked for it's lack of it. The article does point out some flaws, but theist have always ignored facts, logic and reason to begin with. To gloss over certain issues should not be a problem for them. This needs to be iron clad.
It would have been nice if they had included a single fact in this article, instead of making it all about someone's opinion. "Scientists" are just as predisposed toward error and having their own agenda. I'm not saying that perhaps some of these conclusions aren't valid… I'm just saying they appear, at least in this article, to be based on **nothing** factual.
Atheists tend to be even more militant about proving their believes (and telling everyone who believes differently that they don't live in 'reality')… than evangelical Christians!
People who have already determined the outcome of their 'study' or their 'experiments' are quick to come to the conclusion they expect in the first place. Facts (and reality) are clearly lost because of personal prejudice.
but if everyone followed those rules there would be widespread massive disvrimination for lgbt's and there would just be all around terrible treatment of others. i do agree that some of these lesson are good lessons but they need to be removed from the book. because while they are still in a religious text, there will be too much hatred and discrimination preached as well as the suppression of human nature.
Maybe with or without knowing it your quoting Marcus Aurilius. Emperor soldier and genius 900AD
If only more people would take life up, with his words we would be all in a better place.
most if not all the books in the bible were written somewhere between 60 and two hundred years after the death of jesus. How do you tell people not to kill each other, create something that would scare them into not doing it Tada create a or gods. and what is the first lesson Obedience! What organization has more than any organization in the world! there's gold in those helluluyahs amen.
900AD?
"God" cannot be omniscient as well as omnipotent in one; if he is omniscient it will not be in his 'power' (omnipotence) to have new ideas, should it be in his power to have new ideas he cannot be omniscient since this will mean there are things yet unknown to him viz. his future (new) ideas.
Religion is beyond insanity.
Interesting proposition.
If one was all powerful wouldn’t they automatically become all knowing?
And wouldn’t anyone who is all powerful by their very nature become an Eldritch Abomination? How could we even grasp that being the finite beings that we are?
Some say that there are some truth in the Bible (as well as in other religious documents…
Well, here where I live on the lower South Coast of primitive South Africa we still have septic tanks and occasionally we have to clean them out and paradoxically, we find traces of food (pit mealies seeds etc.) among the feces, very much like finding traces of truth in the bible! But, in final analysis it is simply not worth the while picking it out and eating it!
Lol yes, good guidelines put in place to make you a coward! used to help ensure that people will turn the other cheek when they see something violent are harmful taking place to others! Teaching you bullshit like oh, he must have did something terribly wronge to somene thats why he is being robbed and beatin with a bat! In front of your very eyes while you what? just watch and try to justify why this is happening instead of helping… "brainwashed"
you don't need religion to have good morals or family values. I'm sure the cavemen looked after their families otherwise we wouldn't all be here now. If you read the bible it says some pretty atrocious stuff about stoning people and killing. The bible says you're going to hell if you do bad things that's fear mongering. Then they say you get eternal parasise in heaven if you do good things. carrot and stick,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I agree that scientist's have proven that religion is a lie but that does not dispute the fact that some of the teachings in those books are good guidelines to any life and if everyone followed the rules there would be no conflict. but that is not the case like with any view someone somewhere will have the complete opposite of opinion's on the matter so there are bound to be disagreements. There is no point in arguing who is right and who is wrong just get on with your own **** and be the best that you can be. at the end of the day do not force what you believe onto others just believe in what you want to believe in.
Alan, your comments are understandable.
To admit what your very senses tell you i.e. there is no proof of god or Jesus other than some iron-age scrolls means admitting you have been a bit of a gullible fool up until now.
But don't let embarrassment stop you from taking your first steps into reality. Realising you have been had is just the first and most painful step.
Reality is really cool so stop living in a tunnel and come join us.
Has anyone considered saying "I don't know". Yes. They are called agnostics. If that is your view you are NOT an atheist. By definition, an atheist is someone who believes there is NOT a deity. They don't just doubt it, the firmly believe it. I am an atheist. You cannot prove a negative. It is about belief, on both sides. I just choose to reject belief in the sort of nonsense spouted by religion and its supporters.
I always like this view on the agnostic/atheist paradigm.
1. Agnostic-Theist: believes god exists, but the existence of a god is unknowable
2. Gnostic-Theist: believes in a god for which he claims knowledge
3. Agnostic-Atheist: does not believe god exists, but it can’t be proved
4. Gnostic-Atheist: believes it can be proved that god does not exist
Stolen from the Atheist Community of Tulsa website. They have a cool infographic there saying this too.
Your argument falls at the glib use of the word 'we'. The question that you need to examine is 'what is 'you''.
Why is it that everyone has to argue one side or the other? Either someone believes in deities or doesn't at all. Both sides offer excellent arguments, although I am an atheist and so think there are no gods and religion is a form of control and explanation of the unknown in the absence of science. But has anyone considered just saying, " I don't know"? We are tiny creatures with limited lifespan, enormous imaginations, prehistoric fears, and only five senses which are themselves very limited. I can't see most of the spectrum of light. I can't hear as well as a cat or smell as well as a dog. So how can I KNOW of completely undetectable, supernatural beings or what really happens after we die? The wisest man in the world will admit he doesn't and can never know, and realize he must leave it at that. To argue the existence of deities is pointless and devoid of any actual proof that can convince the world of any argument.
You're a fool that is being controlled.
Fuck your religions creating war, division and hatred. Science is real while you religious assholes deceive people – scientific men are HELPING the people.
Watch this video of a man with Parkinsons and tell me who is doing something for him?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e39_1371967624
Millions gave their body and life over the holy land, slaughterd in cold blood. Over a book where much of its original content such as the 10 commandments came from the egyptians, because moses was from egypt. Then Paul the Apostle, the man who planted the seeds of anti-semitsm visioned the resurrection, yet nobody witnessed it, except for the people in the bible in which he was the author.
Judas represents Judaism, it was not that the jews killed christ, but it was judaism that rejected Jesus as the messiah, this is the reason for such persecution that the jews have faced over 2000 years, all because of a vision from Paul the apostle, who was keen on starting his own denomination for his own self gain and glory, and regarded the torah as obselete. The concept of Jesus dyeing for our sins came fron the rituals of humans sacrifice to appease the Gods, which basically means the same thing and was practiced very regularly in ancient times
Jesus came to earth to save humanity. Why is some of you cannot understand this fact. Humanity owes him a debt of gratitude instead we get silly articles like this giving creedance to Atheists. When I read the Bible it uplifts my spirit and my belief is so powerful and strong I cry for the people who will not be saved. Christ gave his body so that man could live and now we need him more than ever. What do scientists know for surewere they there when Jesus turned water into wine, were they there when he fed the 5000, were they there when he cured the lepers and blind, were they there when he rose up to heaven to be with his father? No! My work is done here…..
Romans 10:17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
Unfortunately up until modern times, religion has been used to mass the people in times of war and conflict. It is an establishment which with the state has enforced and imposed its religious laws upon its people in a brutal manner. Where to slaughter opposing religious beliefs in the name of God was accepted and was the will of God. This is still going on today. The clergy elite profit vastly in a cloak of deceit and scandal. It is the biggest human conspiracy of all time. Offcourse we should believe there is a creator, but humans are aware of good and evil and we understand what is moral. It is our awareness of morality and intent regarding the unknown truth that should be revered. The bible is a book, written by several humans on how they perceive the truth.
“I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.”
For cryin' out loud! Why are people SO freakin' threatened by the idea of a God?! If ya don't want to read the bible, don't. But why make such a fuss over someone that does?! If you don't want to hear their 'religious ramblings', don't listen. Simple as that. But people deserve the same respect for their choices that EVERYONE wants. Why condemn them for a BELIEF? Yes, the bible (and other religious works) were written by human beings. If ya don't believe it was divinely inspired, chalk it up to a fictional piece and move on. With all due respect to these know-it-alls who THINK they've debunked the bible as a work from God – just because THEY haven't seen God – that doesn't mean He doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure they haven't seen their own brain matter, either. Does that mean they don't have brains? Using their logic, I would have to assume that's the case.
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I definitely believe there is a creator undoubtedly. I dont think He is as we percieve him to be. We dont even know if he is spiritual or a physical being or beings who are more advanced than us. As we understand science more, then we can understand that there may be an advanced science and technology that would have had to introduce species into this world. Humans are learning to harness the powers of the universe in an artificial way through science. However God may also be a in credibly powerful spiritual being. The fact is the truth is being witheld from humans, and there would be many reasons for this, so it it up to us to theorise why? Like myself. I dont belive there has ever been one human being in our known history who really knew, understood or comprehend the truth, and if so he was not able to prove it with substancial evidence,. but there obviously is a truth, and many circumstances that may be involved, regarding the truth, thus this unknown truth should be revered, purely for the fact that we understand the difference between good and evil, wrong and right etc. In modern times we dont really need religion to be educated about morality and correctness as it educated to us through school now and we have the government laws and police to keep the community at peace
Would God really allow to have His own spiritual Son to appear in human form to be stripped of his dignity and then crucified by the hands of his own creation, and watch humanity systematically persecute, torture, torment and kill 100's of millions of other human beings in Christ's name. The same would apply for other religions also. Why would God have such religions be founded and have humanity slaughter each other in Gods name, its just not logical. However we recognise right and wrong, good and evil. So if there is an evil and a satan, then religion would have to be the work of the devil.
While I don’t believe in such things, religion would be the work of a “devil”. lol What better thing to do than create little hate filled groups? Say the Christian devil is lazy, albeit a genius, he has em kill each other for thousands of years. 2,000 year day off seems like a pretty sweet deal. The wheels are turning, what a great little cartoon network show 😛
I was unfortunate enough to be born in religious family, so before I learned to walk and talk or even comprehend myself and my surroundings I was already baptised and in their eyes a part of this sharade. Tell me, if religions are so great and supposingly "our choice" how come all of them try to recruit you before you even learn how to say no? Talk about someone pushing their views at you.. Wake up, you poor fools, for your own "soul's" sake.. Peace.
How do we believe that you are telling the relative truth? Ok, if you are, then how do we believe you witnessed it?
For me religion is 'Spiritual Psychology'.
If you follow its messages you will get healing and improve your life.
Some people discriminate against religion because of the junk that is associated with it.
Like this article for exapmle which is hate crime.
Whether you believe it or not you are following God. To say that religion is nonsense is to say that
there is no power greater than us which heals the cut on your hand or grows the plant in your garden. I think it's evident that there is something greater than us which i like to call a 'Creative Force'.
I think it's great to have religion to follow but i don't think that it should be used to manipulate or to control people. People who hate religion or "don't believe in it" have never studied it at great length and are ignorant to the truth. Or the truth so far as we know it.
True, just believe that exists. God is greater than religion, his understanding and goodness is much greater than any doctrine. Do what is good, hate what is bad, forget the all the other rituals/ traditions loaded onto our backs.
I believe that religion is pure nonsense, but the scriptures that MOST religions are based on is the TRUTH. It is "religion" that took the most high's words and twisted them to suit thier own desires. If people took the time to actually read and research the bible (especially in it's original language) then a totally different story emerges.
My point is read it for your self without any religious input, you will come to a very different view than that of most religions. The most high never gave his people a "religion" nor did his only begotten son come to start a "new religion", he was sent as an example of how to live in accordance with the laws and statutes of the most high.
if you really want to get deep here is a little info that might start you on the right path: Most christians will tell you that the messiah's name is jesus, but how can that be? The letter J is less than 500 years old, this means that the ancient israelites would never have called upon the name jesus or jehovah or any of those other erroneous names. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE ACCEPTING ANY MAN'S VERSION OF THE MOST HIGH'S TRUTH.
GOD,EEWSAR,ALLAH- all these words fingers towards the source of creation,the limited possessiveness of body consciousness leads to ignorance and makes the mind to disconnect from source of creation,every moment the body is connect to its source,but the mind is in limited possessiveness of body consciousness.
A path to reach the source of creation is religion,the existence without the source is totally foolishness,
FINALLY TO THE SOURCE OF WHOLE CREATION IS THE INFINITE SPACE , RELIGION CALL IT AS GOD,EEWSAR,ALLAH
Your prophet was a pedophile. Your argument, therefore, is invalid in it's entirety.
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Higgs bison is proof that nothing = something, religion fails once again, wait fossils what ? We as a species are always evolving, I see all this as a part of that we will one day have no religion simply because rational thinking and science continue to prove it faulty. You have to understand where all this came from , an area that has always benefited off of control and fear just like it has fed off of in other areas and what is the bible preaching most about ( although I do like how it is NOW teaching good some good morals ) ? The one thing that man knows almost nothing about, what happens after death. It is human nature to survive and surviving after death is this fear and is exactly why there is evolution. Get educated please 🙂 It will help the human species as a whole 😛
I think the guy who wrote this post was talking about religion not existing. He said nothing about God not existing. First of all someone or something must have created this crazy world we live in, and we call him GOD or as muslims call him 'Allah'.
Now this is a sure fact that Allah exists because Everything can be not be created from nothing. So Allah the Almighty does Exist.
Regarding religion(the holy books) there is no way to prove that they are exist or not, but we can use our common sense. Common sense says that if God does exist, then so does Fire and Hell. Good people go to Heaven, Bad people go to Hell. Holy Books are to make sure we go to Heaven by doing good deeds on this miserable planet. The reason why people are starting to believe that Religion is false, is because of all these extremists who are giving religion a bad name.
If you don't want to believe in Religion- which I strongly urge everyone not to do – then at least have the logic and brains to understand that GOD exists.
The things of the spirit are foolishness to the normal man…so, i understand your anger
I used to wonder how we became so lost and I just figured it out by reading these posts. If you dont believe in God thats fine but dont push your views on me. You people are so void of spirituality that it saddens me. I for one believe with all my heart there is a God and through my experiences I know there is a God and I feel sorry for the people of no faith. One day the entire world will know there is a God. We know the bible is full of contradictions because it has been re written so many times but I believe in its main point! Period! If you dont want me to believe in God prove him wrong and not by some self gratifying point. The dead spiritually are truly dead and I for one am so happy there is a TRUE LIVING GOD!!!!!!!!!!! Your scientists the same ones that allow your food to be genetically modified and [preach] to you its safe are the ones you allow to tell you there is no God. Man has lied and deceived us our intire lives I choose to believe there is a reason for our trials and tribulations on this earth and nobody can waiver that with a couple of cute remarks.
I could have not said it any better.
My thorough disappointment in this fluffy, fact-devoid rhetoric-riddled article (whose conclusion I nonetheless agree with) is matched only by the idiocy of the religious commenters.
"If you make a computer, then you know what to put in its manual. YOU DON'T NEED TO BECOME A COMPUTER TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMPUTER." genius 😀 what a simple and straightforward way to point out the obvious self-contradictions
It took five years to figure out that Religions are all nonsense? It took me about 5 minutes. Too many contradictions. If you want some good advice on the absurdness of Religion, watch George Carlin on youtube about Religion. It is brilliant. The only way to believe in any Religion is to remove commonsense and logic. It is for the fool minded.
Can you provide any evidence (Quran doesn't count) to support your claim? This is the problem with the religious mind; you compartmentalize logic. You will apply logic to how you spend your money, how you drive, etc., and yet you fall short of applying logic to religion. It's a mental illness.
About time people realize the truth.
That is a myth. No one has a poof of that. I've heard this before but this is all bullshit and I am Muslim bty…
i am waiting for the day when damascus is completely destroyed, it will not be long now, who are these idiots who do not believe in bible prophecy?
I have come to believe that reasoning religion is very hard.
This I think is due to the fact that maybe religious 'rules' or 'guidelines' are circular arguments in nature and people are mentally programmed to follow them since childhood.
The concept of good, bad, right and wrong is taught since childhood, by relating to religion.
Why does one believe in God?
Possible answers you may get:
-Bcoz someone wrote about it a thousand years ago.
-Bcoz the world around has so much diversity and intelligent design.
-Bcoz you cant create anything from nothing; something has to be present.
-You got to have faith…
etc…
The only good arguments, I think, are the second and third one.
By my experience, intelligent design HAS to occur at one place or the other.
Chaos is not an intelligent design, yet if you look at a closed system objectively, without any bias, you will find that what you call an intelligent design results from chaos. eg: stardust colluding to form planets and solar systems, etc.
One may call the same system chaotic, another may call it intelligent. This does not mean that if you think the system is intelligent it would had to be made by someone.
Next if something has to be present, for anything to be created, then what people call god must be within everything. My question – What is the fuss all about? This means what people call 'matter' is evidently 'god' as called by religious people. This must mean matter and god are one and the same thing.
Personally, I think religion is a kind of tool to control people. It is somewhat ingenious how people can be controlled by foolhardy reasoning.
I have had some experiences in life which have made me question the concept of god. When I ask about the reasons to those experiences, I get what I think are dumb answers.
Even though I think the concept of god is foolish,I still think a few religions have some wisdom embedded in them, especially the older ones like hinduism and buddhism.
If anyone can take the trouble, I would love to hear some better arguments.
This is five years is not enough to make this conclusion. Cont to search and gather more evidence and apply rational thinking without bias. Something will surely come out of it.
took 5 years? why not one minute of rational thought?
What would happen if someone proves this so called research is nonsense work. People cant live wothout religion.
Tony – asked- and answered over 2,300 years ago…
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
– Epicuris
this would be more entertaining if it were true. it's funny, but it's just not true! people aren't waking up from religion in mass quantities; they're rolling over in bed and embracing new, equally ridiculous faiths instead.
Its amazing how many of the readers comments here cannot escape the Judao-Christian paradigm. If we give a minimum estimate that homo sapiens sapiens have been around at least 100k years why would god wait unti say 3,000 years ago to reveal himself. Its ludicrous. Also in these peoples minds he reveals himself to a bunch of backward illiterate nomads in the middle east when the Chinese have already been writing stuff down for around a thousand years or more. The god of the old testament is a cruel, vengeful, genocidal, pathological maniac and the god of the new testament is a misogynous, slave trading ogre that asks people to believe ridiclous "miracles" such as a virgin birth, death to life etc for people to believe in him. Then add the numerous transaltion from the original "man made" script and you end up with such an unbelievable story that you would have to have a lobotamy to believe it all.
1. In the beginning of your rebuttal, you mentioned 'God is all knowing'. Then later on you said 'God came down to earth… therefore he knows your pain'. You are a paradox, man. If God is all-knowing why should He come down to know 'more' things?
If you make a computer, then you know what to put in its manual. YOU DON'T NEED TO BECOME A COMPUTER TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMPUTER.
Similarly, GOD NEED NOT BECOME HUMAN TO KNOW HUMANS, pains of humans, etc. Its illogical. If you say your 'God' needs to know something more, then it's not God.
Jesus is not God. See Matthew 24:36 'But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.'
If Son is also the Father (very illogical), then why can't Son also know that day and hour?
And according to Christians' own belief, humans are born sinners. Christians say we inherit the nature of sin. This is very illogical. How can a new-born be a sinner by birth?
The Bible says in Jeremiah 31:30 "But every one shall die for his own iniquity:" and also in Matthew 10:38 "And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me."
That means we are accountable for our sins. But you say Jesus paid for our sins. Please read the complete Bible.
And read Luke 24:36-43, and tell me what do you understand. Did he imply that he died and resurrected? That he is a spirit?
Please guys, use logic. Bible has got many good advises, and also bad ones that contradict the good ones. I don't believe in the Bible completely. No logical human can believe in the full Bible, for it has contradictions, vulgarity, pornographic texts, absurdity…
I'm from the Philippines and I don't believe in religion…. As far as I know my questions emerge as how our country's history was written. Philippines is once Spain's Colony for a good long while where they actually introduced us to christianity.. The problem is the priest back then was allegedly capable of doing crap things to the natives like rape and once control the society more than politics.. so which way to buy?
If only there is a chance we can get to a different planet and ask the natives there which deity they honor and then they answered Jesus Christ or anyother deities here on earth, Thats the only way I could believe in any…
Not all religious people think for themselves, logically. Similarly not all atheists think for themselves, logically.
Some religious people do think logically, and those are the people more closer to their faith.
Scientists have found from the Middle East traces of humans 400,000 years ago. So we have to agree that humans have been on earth for 400,000 years or more. For instance, consider it to be just 400,000 years.
Then God must have spoken to the first man, else you can't expect his descendants to be righteous until a prophet is sent. So the first man on earth is the first prophet.
1. According to the Jews, Moses is the last prophet till now. He lived 3200 years ago. So the last 3200 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.
2. According to the Christians, Jesus is the last prophet till now. He was here 2000 years ago. So the last 2000 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.
3. According to the Muslims, Mohammed is the last prophet ever. He was here 1400 years ago. So the last 1400 years is a very short time in compared to the 400,000 years.
So your argument 'One good point is how come God only spoke to humans in a small time period.' is ruled out.
Here, you did not think for yourself, but I, being religious, did.
Mr Phil, have you read the Bible completely, from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 ?
I say, you CANNOT believe in every word in the Bible, because it has clear contradictions – arithmetic, scientific facts (not theories, but established facts), logical (etc.) contradictions.
It has got wrong prophecies and evil advises.
It also has place which you can't read to your mother, sister, daughter; like incest between father and daughters, brother and sister, father-in-law and daughter-in-law; whore-doms of 2 sisters which the Bible explains clearly. Psychologists say, your behavior will be affected by what you read. So if your read such incest, don't you think your mind will be negatively affected?
Do you expect God to produce a Word with many contradictions and mistakes and pornography?
FEW EXAMPLES WITH REFERENCES:
1. Scientific Contradiction – Genesis 1:9-13 says ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ (this is just summary of the verses, plz read the Bible for yourself)
Genesis 1:14-19 says ‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ (summary)
Today science tells us ‘Earth is part of the parent body the sun.’
It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.
2. Arithmetic Contradiction – 1st Kings 7:26 "And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths."
2nd Chronicles 4:5 "And the thickness of it was an handbreadth, and the brim of it like the work of the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies; and it received and held three thousand baths."
Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths? 50% exaggeration? There is a clear-cut mathematical contradiction.
3. Another BIG Arithmetic Contradiction – 2nd Chronicles 9:25 "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem."
1st Kings 4:26 " And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen."
Its not with 0s, but it is written in words 'four' and 'forty'. 1000% exaggeration? This is a clear mistake.
4. Logical Error – 1st Chronocles 21:1 "And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."
2nd Samuel 24 " And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."
No language in the world has these 2 words – Lord and Satan – as synonyms; or even as somewhat similar.
5. God or Satan (acc. to the Bible) Lied – Genesis 2:17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt
surely die."
Genesis 3:4 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"
Of course Adam and Eve died, but not as a consequence of this sin. Adam live 930 years (mentioned in Genesis 5:5)
Acc. to the Bible, then, who was more truthful? Lord or Devil?
A 'GOOD' ADVICE IN THE BIBLE
Proverbs 31:6-7 "Let him drink, and forget his poverty, And remember his misery no more. Open thy mouth for the dumb, In the cause of all such as are left desolate." This is also contradicted by an opposite and real good advice in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunken with wine, wherein is riot, but be filled with the Spirit;"
INCEST AND PORNOGRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS:
1. Father and Daughters – Genesis 19:33-35 says Prophet Lot drinking wine, and then sleeping with his 2 daughters, and both of them begetting a son each.
2. FIL and DIL – Genesis 38:15-18 says Judas mating with his son's wife, and begat twins Phares and Zarah who are the ancestors of Jesus according to the Bible.
3. Brother and Sister – 2 Samuel 13:11-14 describes Amnon raping his sister Tamar. After that he says Arise, be gone.
4. Son with father's concubines – 2 Samuel 16:22 says Absalom (son of David) went unto his father's concubines, in the sight of all Israel.
5. Whoredoms of 2 sisters Ahola and Aholiba – Ezekiel 23:1-49 describes in detail the whore-doms of 2 sisters. Verse no. 8 says 'and they handled the BOSOM of her virginity'. 10 says 'These uncovered her NAKEDNESS;'
Do you think God's Words should explain in detail about such acts? Just the words: 'Thou shall not commit adultery' be enough to condemn such acts.
Do you think Bible is relieable
So there is GOD.
It is ridiculous to believe that the GOD is unjust, because God is so supreme and that God is the most supreme. So God cannot be unjust not even in the least degree.
So for justice to prevail, there should be punishment to the sinners. So there must be eternal life – a heaven and hell.
For example, if we get Hitler alive, who killed our 60 million Jewish brothers, the punishment we can give is to kill him. But we cannot give justice to the rest 5999999 Jews. But God, and only GOD can punish him 6 million times.
So there must be an eternal life.
THEORY of Evolution is only a theory, not a fact. Theories are based on assumptions and often take U-turns.
Darwin's Theory is taught at schools as though it's a fact. Darwin himself admitted that he has no proof for the theory, but he uses it as it helps him to classify organisms.
Microbiologists say it is IMPOSSIBLE THAT HUMAN DNA EVOLVED FROM DNA OF APES.
Scientists say Mars has got all conditions to support life, but there has been no record of life on Mars. Why can't life exist in Mars? Because it can exist only by the Will of God.
So, you atheist, GOD SPOT in brain is a solid evidence that God exists.
I don't believe in many gods, god with wife or parents, or god begetting children, but i believe in one God.
As to the question 'Who created God?', let me tell you, it is like asking 'What is the sex of the child who was came out of Mr JACK's womb?' BY DEFINITION, MAN CAN'T GIVE BIRTH. So such question of the sex of the child who was given birth by man does not arise. Similarly, BY DEFINITION, GOD IS UNCREATED.
Life has exacting standards. Mars is too small to hold atmospheric conditions for human life. After the first billion years, the planet ceased being habitable. Earth on the other hand is in the perfect spot, exact size, distance to the sun, and of course atmosphere for organic life forms. I am not as versed in the Mr. Jack you speak of. I suppose he was born a female, therefor all the parts are in play for pregnancy. Adding hydraulics does not make him a man with a miraculous conception story.
All prophets done many miracles, not just Jesus.
1. Not having a human father does not imply that he is the son of God, to be worshiped. If so, then Adam is a greater son of God because he had no father and no mother.
2. Jesus said in Matthew 11:11 "Among them that are born of women there hath not arisen a greater than John the Baptist". When you say Jesus is greatest you are saying something against what he said.
3. Matthew 14:2 says "This is John the baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore do these powers work in him." So even if you prove that Jesus is unique as he resurrected, he is not unique.
4. Luke 11:20 says "But if I by the finger of God cast out demons". Yes, he did miracles, healed the sick, all with God's permissions. He did NOT say 'I cast out demons'.
5. In Psalms 146:3 says "Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help." Now I'm asking you Christians, what is he implying from this? That he is god?
6. And any Christian please explain the incest the 'Word of God' associate to prophets. What is the moral of such things in Bible? Examples of such incest from Bible:
i) Father and Daughters – Genesis 19:33-35 says Prophet Lot drinking wine, and then sleeping with his 2 daughters, and both of them begetting a son each.
ii) FIL and DIL – Genesis 38:15-18 says Judas mating with his son's wife, and begat twins Phares and Zarah who are the ancestors of Jesus according to the Bible.
Human being is the most complex machine, and the creation of MIND is the greatest of all creations, according to me.
For such a complex machine the MANUFACTURER must produce and INSTRUCTION MANUAL (Revelations), and EXPERTS (Prophets).
So comes the first expert Adam (PBUH), who taught his children of one Truth, one GOD, without a second.
When people deviate from the teachings of experts, or when the society is in need of experts, another expert (Prophet) is sent.
When a Revelations ceases to exist without interpolations, another Revelations is sent.
The Torah got interpolated and now has many scientific absurdities like saying Earth was created before Sun (On Genesis Chapter 1)
The Bible has all the errors in Old Testament and many contradictions in the NT between John 18:9 and John 17:12, where in the former it says 'lost none' while in the latter it says 'none of them is lost except the son of perdition'.
Added to this, there are many versions of Bible, like Catholic Bible with 73 books and Protestant Bible with only 66 books.
And now Qur'an exists as is given to us through the expert Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), with many scientific miracles like all living beings made of water, Big Bang, etc. One great miracle is that it has undergone NO INTERPOLATIONS because the Arabic text is still kept as is.
I believe in God. As a Christian I have the same thoughts as you at times, why there are famines, wars, floods, thousands of deaths daily and so on. It isn't God that is doing all this, it is man. The greed for money, wealth and power. Take one part of it, the forrests throughout the Globe have more or less gone, it causes problems with landslides, which we have wittnessed in the last twenty years. One of the largest money makers in the World, is the arms industry, they wont be voting for World peace will they? I have only touched on this, not even scratched the surface. Satan also plays a big part in this.
I pity you all….
Telling me that religious people can't think?
Oh for pity's sake! I'm a becoming scientist, I CAN THINK.
AND I DO BELIEVE. Its a marriage of how god works and thinking in science..
At this point, god is a little GENIUS. ._.
HAVE YOU SEEN CALCULUS!??! DDDD:
Tsk….. The unwillingness to possibly acknowledge something outside of yourself…(shakes head) And always knowing that SOMETHING must always come from SOMETHING.
BBuutt, I guess this is why in church they always say "The mystery of faith"
Religion always talks about how wonderful it is yet followers can't cope with anyone disbelieving..WHY! In their minds they think they are safe come judgement day, that's if they don't die before. Believers are no different to non-believers, they get all the same illnesses, they lie and cheat just as any other cross section of mankind, they cheat on their wives and abuse children, probably more often than any non-believers, they believe that if they admit they sinned they'll be saved, wouldn't it be better if followers of religion actually practised what they preach and leave non-believers to lead good and happy lives actually caring for each other as human beings and not existing in, and living, what they believe to be a lie.
Leave us alone, just try and sort out the violence and hate religions and factions within your religions have for each other, because non-believers are quite happy to be judged by God should he turn up one day, but one thing we don't need is some half wit threatening us with all sorts of evil. One more fact…if Jesus or Mohammed did return to Earth they would be killed by believers, they wouldn't and couldn't accept it, just as before they would be ordinary men with nothing but words, they would be disbelieved and killed. Only people who don't believe in God would welcome them with open arms, maybe we are the true believers because we demand nothing from any God, we simply care about Mankind regardless of sex, race, colour, ability, disability, and surely no God could want more from anyone. No religion welcomes all without some kind of rule and regulation.
If you believe in God then put your self in his place, what would you want of mankind? People bowing down and creeping "Oh look at me God I'm such a true believer, can I have a new car" or people who get on with life asking nothing of you, only that you true and fair. That's not much to ask for is it?
As for heaven well this is it, this beautiful world to enjoy for as long as time and chance allows, enjoy life, don't complicate it with a pointless passtime like religion. God wouldn't want you too! I usually say if asked that I'm quite happy to believe in something beyond this world, God if that's how you see it, but religion leaves me cold, it's too political and has mans dirty fingerprints all over it. FS
I think this article poses a great challenge to all religions, and is also one that has been addressed many times so it is not new that certain people believe religion is man-made. I'd like to offer my rebuttal. I agree, religion can be controlling. However, think about it in truth. By definition, God is all knowing and therefore can make better decisions than we can. He is also all loving so he wants what is best for us. So what is seen as controlling (the commands of God) is in fact the best path we could possibly take (are not a burden) – 1 John 5:3. Therefore, it is completely rational to listen to everything God says. The reason we follow what God says is because he created life, therefore he knows the best way to live it. Those who know and understand God, understand that he did not come to create a religion, but to save the people he created from the devil, who does in fact exist as temptation away from all things righteous. The thing people should try to understand is that by trying to disprove God saying he is to blame for all of the bad things in the world, is only convincing people to hate the one thing that will save us from it. Will the bad go away? No, sin is here to stay, but those who believe will not die, they will live in heaven after their life on earth is complete. God did not create the bad, people did through sin. God did not design us to do bad things, free will gives us the opportunity to and the devil leads us to do them. We were created for good out of pure love. When a husband and wife get married, they have a child because they want someone to share their love with. That is what God did with the earth as our heavenly father. As for where is Jesus now and why don't we get saved now? Is it fair to save the believers now when not everyone has had the chance to know who Jesus is and believe in him? No. Wouldn't it be nice if we were saved now? Yes. However, God wants ALL of his creations to be saved and once everyone has had the chance to believe in God and the Savior, then we're good to go (Bible: Revelations). Yes, I am a Christian. Christianity is the only "religion" where God actually came to earth to be tempted by all things that the earth offers, therefore he knows your pain, trials, and fears. This is also why HE is the only one that can help us through lives as a human until we are brought to heaven, which is also real and beyond anything we can imagine.
The reason the bible was written in a limited period of time is because the bible is an account of Jesus' life and interactions, it is not an account of history or science.
Also, in this paper there will have to be an explanation for an explosion of churches within a VERY short period of time. The fact that this happened points directly to Jesus.
Thank you for the challenge, this allows all believers to understand even deeper who God is and why we need Him more than anything. This paper will effectively further the kingdom of God.
Blessings
In the Old Testament God spoke through the prophets. The last book of the Old Testament talks about how God was going to be silent until He sends the Messiah into the world. 400 years (or so) pass and then there is the birth of Jesus and the start of the New Testament. So from my perspective God has spoken all throughout time, He used the Prophets in the Old Testament to speak for Him, and then He came as Jesus to speak us in the New Testament. I believe God is always working and speaking. This probably sounds stupid to those who don't believe in God or religion and I can respect that. It's all about faith in the unseen (as Paul says). God doesn't need to audibly speak to us because He has given us His word which is eternal. It's all about having faith. This makes me a happier person even though most of you think its dumb. I respect that people don't believe in God, it's very understandable. Jesus teaches to love everyone so thats what I do.
I agree, humans have been tricked by churches and religion into believing there is a God when there is no God at all just lies. Alot of people have been tricked into believing by religions that there is a Heaven, hell, when no place exists in the world. It is just rubbish. You do not have to worry about going to Hell when you die or believing that there is a Devil when there is not one.Stop scaring people with something religions like to call the Devil when no Devil actually exists. There is no Heaven. You are not going to Heaven when you die. The only place you are going when you die is your coffin. The End of your Life forever and ever. People are just going round and circles putting women thru the agony of childbirth when the world should be encouraging men in small countries to get vasectomies to try and decrease the worlds population until no one is left of planet Earth to ever suffer ever again. No one will have to die, work, worry about money, be sick, extremely ill ever again.
Or be in pain, break a leg or arm, pass kidney stones, commit suicide ever again. No farmer has right to artificially inseminate cows or other female animals against a female animals will. Stop exploiting female animals for money. Please drink water instead of milk. milk is for baby animals not adults. Eating apples does not cause pain in childbirth. Women do not have to have children, men can get vasectomies.
Remember the world is overpopulated in today world. 7 billion people. By 2050 there could be 9 billion people. It is dangerous to have too many people because of starvation, people dying of thirst, overcrowding, lack of housing for more people, diseases, no privacy.
@genev
If what you said is true, where is Jesus now?
we have so many diseases and sick people all over the world, we need him now, so where is he????
spouting tons of nonsense about miracles sicken many!
All credits should be given to the Dr. who are doing their best to cure and heal the patients, just stop mentioning "What Jesus can do" while he is no where to be seen when needed most!
Torah,Bible Koran
three books at different times, in different languages each one orders the same thing, one God and men prophets,
Moses did not speak the language of Abraham, Mohamed did not speak the language of Jesus, but the books remarkably and in different times and places agree to each other
why would God send down humans to earth? well that is a question, first if you are an atheist then I will ask you another question before I answer you this one, if you entered a library and saw great complicated books, so hard written on all languages, you read them but cant understand them, would you say these books wrote themselves? or say reacted with the ink and with the pens and the books came out to being? if you dont say that, then how could you say that the fish became a human, or the atom that exploded in the big bang created it self? the compelling structure of the atom, so amazingly created and homogeneously electrons orbiting the nucleus created it self by it self? or us, we have a mystery science can not explain, the soul, the brain, we think we feel we have conciseness, reacting elements can not create spirit, the example of books and library I took it from the genius einstien
or if you are one of those who say we believe in a creator, but not any a religion, then you have questions can not be answered only by religions
why did God create us on this earth?
why doesn't God show himself ?
why does God let us suffer on this earth, or why does he not punish those who make us suffer
and save us from them ?
first question religion answer you,
God created us on this earth to test us, examine us, unlike angles, we make mistakes, we have the ability of making good deeds and bad deeds, we can either steel, or we can work, we can oppress or be just, we have an amazing universe we live in, everything is so organised and governed by certain rules and laws, obeyed everywhere in the universe, not just on earth, those to choose to oppress, kill, slaughter, steel,disobey the peaceful nature of creation
second questions why does not God show himself?
has he not? every where we look we see the beauty, the cordiality, organised system, you must be asking why does he not send angles? well imagine if an angle knocked your door in a shape you have never seen in your life then you would run and scream, and convince yourself you need a doctor, and that was not true, you would not listen to him no matter what, but if a man knocked your door saying you have been created by God and here is his message to you, you would read the message and see if it is from God, if it orders you to worship statues and myths, no one can accept these, but one God, no sons no partners, no one but one, you just feel like you want to believe in it, could be that God sent this man to you, and now making you believe in it
third question why God let us suffer?
first religion say God did not create us to suffer, but to live peacefully with each other, who oppress, harm and make you suffer will be punished, how relieving it is to hear that, we have enough food to feed the whole planet, people are starved because of the oppressive money system that makes hundreds extremely rich, and billions extremely poor,
you just have to search for the right religion
besides all religions order to follow science and education I know my religion does, my prophet said(spend one hour thinking is better than to spend hundred year worshiping)
nothing in my religion more important than science except justice and truth
just, honest state seeks for education and science, the problem is with those who sneak inside religion to deceive people to follow them for political and imperialistic reasons for power control of fortunes, these people religions says will be punished
Either this is heavily satirical or you're a moron.
We need people to stay stupid
I have always felt the same thing about religion especially Chritsian. I was brought up Catholic but now have denounced it especially from all the abuses of children and cover ups. I see the bible mainly as an allegory and its just writing nothing else. man wrote that and God did not. Any people who believe that God wrote the Bible are mentally sick. Religion is a mental illness and hese people need to be cured.
You're retarted.
very subjective attack on religion. pure subjective propaganda in itself.
There is no thing as eternal life. The first life formed 4.5 billion years ago. Although this is preposterous, but the person who invented carbon dating said that the earth is only around 300000 years ago. And when people are touched by the "holy spirit", their brains come into a psychological trance and high where "God" is "present" in their minds. It is all psychology and evolution and geography! So those believers were long deceived.
Science is evil? then stop using the Internet and computers you fool as they come from science!
The stupidity of religious people is epic!
are you drunk?
Knowledge is a Sea of Water..how this so called supernatural scientist quench their thirst and come to a conclusion.. compare to the whole universe with there tiny brain's….let me a simple example any product in this world there is human inventor.. so who is your creator…?
I would agree except many parents refuse to let their children think for themselves. My parents DRAGGED me out of bed every Sunday morning to force Christianity on me. Many religions look at their children marrying outside their family's religion as taboo and will disown their own children for it. Religion is based on fiction. I live my life based on fact, not the best sold fictional book in the world.
Religion–Reason for lots of unnecessary death, reason for lack of world peace. Religion–The reason for many annoying knocks on my door. The Bible–The Greatest Fictional Story Ever Told. Thank you for nothing religion.
Religious people cannot think for themselves they rely on these man made rules and rituals to make it through life. One good point is how come God only spoke to humans in a small time period. Man has been around much longer and what about recently, nothing. I just find it hard to believe that Moses was the chosen one, that whole story is made up non sense. If you were raised on a desert island you would not know about organized religion and you would not know any better.
Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine. Jesus was born of a virgin mother because he was the Son of God. Wherever Jesus went he would heal the sick and crippled purely by touching them. If they had terrible diseases they would just disappear. Jesus raised a widow's dead son in the town of Nain and cured lepers. Jesus was also good with fish the nets would strain with fish when he so wished and he could calm storms just by waving his hand. Abracadabra. He raised Jairus' daughter from the dead and she came to life. This is proof that Jesus was the Son of God and a Savior to al Mankind. He fed 5000 men and and women with 5 loaves and 2 fish by making them multiply. He raised Lazarus from the dead he said come out Lazarus after 4 days in the tomb. Lazarus came out and Jesus said let him go. Jesus was on the mount of olives and Judas kissed him betraying the Son of Man, one of his disciples lopped off Judases ear. Jesus said enough of this and touched his ear restoring it fully even though it had been severed completely. These are some of the miracles of Jesus. No doctor or science can do anything that he did. The Holy Christian Bible is the true word of God. Jesus is God's messenger on earth and he will come back soon to bring humanity back from the devil. Science is satans realm. Science does not have the Holy Spirit, science is evil. Jesus and his disiples are the cure for man's illnesses.
I think this article disproves religion in one fell swoop. I don't know of any text or book that has done this ever and to see it done in one measly piece is amazing. Whoever wrote this or the scientists is a genius because this is check mate. I used to be a practicing Christian but now I really don't know. It really is stupid to believe in all of it, including islam hindu and judaism theyre just products of the human mind.
Whoever is behind this has done a very very brave thing. I want to sit down these religous people and say sorry you must accept that it is not true and we have all been misled. I was misled, my parents and elders misled me, my church misled me.
If there was a pill you people could take to cure you of your disease the world would be a much better place.
Tell me…what language did God speak to Moses in? And why is God not speaking to anyone in the internet and television era? Come on speak up!!!!!!!!
God did not write the bible, he dictated it to Moses, who wrote it down in the language that the Israelites spoke, Hebrew, so that they could understand it. Saying that the bible only being written in one language somehow disproves God is a very weak and poorly thought out argument.