The scientists, headed by Doctor Julius Sanreso, welcomed the research findings and said that it would be in the interests of those who believe in such nonsense as organised religion or creationism to accept the fact that religious books were written by men as a control system.
“Just think for one second, if ‘God’ or a ‘messenger of God’ had written that particular religious book/bible, how come the writings only occur within a very limited period in human history? Also, consider the fact, that a human writing on a piece of paper, or a few pieces of paper, is not the word of ‘God’. If they were really written by a universal God or entity, the books would not be limited to some pre-medievel costume drama but would encompass all universality, history, the future and science. Language is something created by man, not an all-seeing, all encompassing entity. God would presumably be universal and timeless as well as all-knowing, as is the universe, therefore these man-written books and scriptures, are just that, man-written linguistically created nonsense used to control men and women thousands of years ago. Why would ‘God’ write anything anyway? One must consider the fact that, even now, there are religious zealots and ordinary people still entrenched in a control belief system that is so far removed from reality that it borders on madness. There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written. These books should therefore simply be viewed as limited parables and historical fiction, as well as a lesson in how millions of people can be so easily controlled.”
The research paper also came to the conclusion that reward/punishment religions, as control systems, were losing their grip on most of the population of the world and only a few die-hard fanatics and delusional maniacs were carrying on with the flame of idiocy.
“The game is up for all religions, how long can this sham carry on, with their ridiculous outdated ceremonies? The priests are deceivers, and they need to come up with some pretty radical solutions to their thousand year old magic trick. People aren’t as dumb or easily swayed as they used to be thousands of years ago, they actually have reasoning powers and can see through the utter nonsense of organised control systems like religion.”
The problem for the world’s political leaders, is that slowly, humans who were controlled for so many years by fictitious writings through generational brainwashing from infancy, may suddenly lose their controlled ‘faith’. This could be quite dangerous, because it would mean that these people would suddenly wake up and realise that they have been fooled for so long by being communally hypnotised.
“We must ensure that the people who have been fooled for so long by fictitious belief systems utilised to control humans do not get too angry when they realise that what they believe in is nonsense written by humans utilising human created language. This could be dangerous for society, so we must either let them carry on believing their fiction or try to somehow support them when they realise the truth,” Dr Sanreso said.
Yes, religion is definitely about Control…control of our Minds and our Behaviours. Every religion has its rules and practices. I am a Catholic and have been brainwashed about Sin, the need for confession (to another man), the punishments if I do not do this or that.
After decades, I am wiser and begin to question…do I need God? I see the immense sufferings of the world, the fear of the unknown after we die, the apologies that it is God’s Will, etc. I just live my normal life, avoid doing harm to others and retreating from the dictates of my faith.
Wish you the same
I am observing Nature as I have taken up gardening…it causes me to wonder at the marvels of Nature. It has existed hundreds of millions of years before Man appeared on earth. The creatures of Nature do not worship, have grandiose ceremonies…they exist, multiply and perish. Given a chance, Nature recovers despite the damages inflicted by Man.
So, I wonder…this concept of God…how true is it? I like the Arts and Culture that religions have given to the world…those beautiful places of worship, those serene gardens. But religion is created by Man to serve its purpose.
Who and Where is God is something I am pondering.
I agree with you. I am also a very keen gardener and I am currently delighting in the spring ritual of birds going about their business – nest gathering and how they sing out to each other to mate in the mornings. They know nothing of this so called God that man has created. They are only governed by the law of nature. A law that man has forgotten and does so at his peril.
Who is God? Where is God? Of late, I often wonder. After decades being a Catholic I realized that the Christian faith instils a sense of guilt….You are a Sinner…Only Jesus can save you. However, the history of Bible is that it is a compilation of books and they discarded dozens more. The Gospels have conflicting versions.
BBC even has a documentary that claims that Jesus escaped to India and died there. They filmed the place where Jesus and one other coffin are now enshrined.
And the wars, diseases, sufferings, the evils wrought by Man? I do wonder..Who and Where is God?
Dont create new stories, It is clear, Jesus is god that was done by man made document, But his teaching love your neighbour as you love yourself is beyond religion…..
Who started 2 world wars in 20-th centuries?
Who killed , raped in iraque, Lybia, Afganistan in 21 century – believers?
What an amatourish writer you are! Think of possible objections first before you write!
Yes, believers. Hitler was a devout Catholic. Stalin had a seminary training to become a priest. The most heinous crimes in history were indeed committed by Christians. The orthodoxy destroyed everything it considered as heresy; the result was an incredible bloodbath and the destruction of valuable historical property.
According to argumentsforatheism.com
‘Stalin, Mao Zedong and Pol Pot were almost certainly atheists’.
Mao Zedong, founder of the People’s Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday. Killing a total of 45 million in four years.
Pol Pot (1925-1998) and his communist Khmer Rouge movement led Cambodia from 1975 to 1979. During that time, about 1.5 million Cambodians were killed.
Stalin was raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin later denounced religion and became an atheist. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the anti-religious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s, it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[110]
Stalin’s role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938.
Estimates of the death toll vary widely, from 3.5-8 million (G Ponton) at the low end to 60 million (A Solzhenitsyn).
Today, most historians seem to have settled on a total of about 20 million.
what a nonsense! Only because the authors of this study have never sought God and never been called to serve Him- only because of that they make up studies like this one.
I am ‘born again’ believer in God through His only Son Jesus Chris, I remember the day The Holy Spirit descended on me and how it has changed my life, my character. Everything what is written in New Testament is true and I experienced many things about which the apostles wrote concerning the new identity in Christ.
So, for me these kind of authors who write that kind of articles about things they never experienced , for me they are liers
Most atheists are ex-christians. There is even a forum called that. They looked and found nothing. NOTHING in the new testament is true, which is why christianity is called a faith. Ignoring known christian forgeries like Josephus, there is no evidence Jesus, Paul, the disciples, etc existed. Hearsay is not evidence. Don’t insult us by making up stories.
I do believe your story, but what you don’t realize, it’s all in your head. All religion is man-made for the control of people. Have a religious experience by all means, and I think it helps you in your life, and good luck, but that doesn’t make it objectively true.
i was raised a christian , was not christened,go by christian belives respect others/ law/and be democtatic, but i dont believe in god, was jesus real , probably.
A Theist look up that. They are people who do not adhere to nonsense of man made religions. They have a theism. You are quite dense.
You made yourself the clown. Hhahahahahaaa they were NOT talking Darwin and such. Why did you mention Darwin. Can you read? Enjoy your hatred and insanity.
I was raised as a “Christian”. I feel Jesus was a real man. He lived, He died. I also feel he was a political threat at the time he lived….that’s why he died on a cross. The Government at the time were threatened by him…Do I believe in God ? I want to….Do I think man wrote the Bible…yes. We are all afraid of dying. We all wan’t hope, purpose and ,meaning to our lives, We all hope we go somewhere good after death….we won’t know until we each cross that bridge…Sometimes I feel “religion” is yet another money making scheme….derived purely from fear & not faith……and, would “God” not forgive our “sins” or is it man….? Men wrote the Bible…if the Bible came out today as a new book…would you believe it ? I wouldn’t…….I would think it insane…….. My faith and hope is my own…not what “others” tell me it should be. If I go some place good when I die, well that’s a bonus….where was “I” all of the billions of years before my birth ? (or your birth ?) Live Life……… On your terms………be at peace in your heart……..not what anyone else tells you to be.
Can I (politely) ask for the evidence you have collected? I’m trying to make an informed decision on this topic – that is, whether it is even possible that there is a god who created the universe – and you seem to be the most vocal person in this particular comment section who is arguing pro creationism (and judging by your words about Jesus/Yeshuah and way of referring to the god you argue in favor of, you are most likely a Jew, and not one who is in touch with the Hebrew language… please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, though, it’s just an observation based on the data I’ve gathered on you in your posts and thus is my subjective approximation which lacks your subjective context, and therefore could be wrong). In addition, you made a good point about science constantly finding out it’s wrong about stuff – what was considered scientific fact (by people who believe science defines facts, which is inherently a logical fallacy) thousands of years ago is pure lunacy today. Scientists once actually believed that the heart was the center of all thought/emotion, and the brain was the cooling device (these were Christian scientists in the 17th century, if I remember what I’ve read correctly), but nowadays if someone claimed that exact same thing they’d be considered stupid, insane or both.
Could you please share with me the evidence you have found that you claim can disprove atheism? And when I say to share it, I mean provide links to (preferably unbiased) reports of the findings – don’t tell me something if you can’t cite the evidence, because then it has no more inherent value than an atheist saying god isn’t real without providing evidence. Without evidence to support itself, a claim will never be more than a claim.
Also, let’s make something clear – no piece of evidence is irrefutable by itself. There are as many potential interpretations of any given piece of evidence as there are people on the planet who’ve had the chance to interpret it. There are faults in every argument, even one with ample evidence to support it, because no one has the full, unbiased truth of anything. Humans are incapable of having zero bias, and therefore any conclusion anyone could make may be distorted by their bias.
One more thing I’d like to point out… when you start a fair (emphasis on the word fair, which you yourself used) debate with someone, you don’t define what they are arguing for before they’ve even started or at all ever – not only does that decision have nothing to do with you beyond what you’ve said that they’ve reacted to (which they also had the choice of ignoring instead of giving a reaction to), but a person’s argument also isn’t always as obvious as it may seem. They may have hidden reasons, motives, evidence or all of the above to argue in favor of or against something that you never could have foreseen, as a human with your own different view of the world… and not all atheists have the same theories on the origins of the universe and everything in it, so you deciding someone’s atheism argument for them actually makes you look ignorant because you haven’t taken the time to confirm the context, and therefore do not understand the nuances of that person’s particular belief.
Also, if you feel so inclined, I humbly invite you to attempt to violently rip apart anything I’ve said if you think it is wrong… but please do try to bear in mind that I will have no hesitation doing the same to you (which so far is looking easy, no offense) if that were to happen. This conversation can be polite, neutral or mean-spirited… I’m fine with any of them.
It oK people we all Know God will fix us all but really some people have little faith in God plan . but i Keep my Faith for God .
I’ve been harassed by the police for a few years because I reported a child porn ring and it was a government, somewhat high level ring. I was routed through a psychiatric reprisal, soviet style. The young, naive resident suggested I go to church (her prescription for what she considered a delusional disorder). Sad!
me and my girlfriend , have this friend she gets pissed 4/5 times a week smokes dope , goes on about the church , that we should go etc her father was ‘ dodgy’ hes now dead , she had ‘ issues ‘ but believes in god but she dont live the christian/god way oh ye and she is a bit of a tart !
The biggest villains go to church because they think they need to.
Wacko they got you by the balls.. The Meds trolley will come past soon DONT miss it….
i am severly disabled and my wife has recently been diagnosed with MS ….praise the lord….yeah right
How can you “test” something you clearly don’t understand?